Comments on: Defining the “Cage Stage” of Calvinism http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/ Exploring the freedom & simplicity of relational Christianity Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:03:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: The Problem of Evil (Yes, it IS a Problem) | eChurchWebsites Christian Blog covering the news, politics, media, law, religion, science, medical, education, internet, technology, Israel and more for the Church http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-28244 The Problem of Evil (Yes, it IS a Problem) | eChurchWebsites Christian Blog covering the news, politics, media, law, religion, science, medical, education, internet, technology, Israel and more for the Church Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0000 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/#comment-28244 [...] these young men (who have recently discovered the doctrines of grace and are evidently still in the cage stage) have been writing me to dispute that point. “There is no ‘problem of [...] [...] these young men (who have recently discovered the doctrines of grace and are evidently still in the cage stage) have been writing me to dispute that point. “There is no ‘problem of [...]

]]> By: Til v. Eulenspiegelvoordt, DVD, CDRom http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-28235 Til v. Eulenspiegelvoordt, DVD, CDRom Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:59:37 +0000 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/#comment-28235 “Assume everyone is chosen. If you happen to minister to someone who isn’t, I’m sure God will forgive you.” ... Unless, of course, you're the illogical (but self-assured) ministering Calvinist who hasn't been chosen. “Assume everyone is chosen. If you happen to minister to someone who isn’t, I’m sure God will forgive you.”

… Unless, of course, you’re the illogical (but self-assured) ministering Calvinist who hasn’t been chosen.

]]> By: Robert A. Johnson http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-17600 Robert A. Johnson Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:31:52 +0000 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/#comment-17600 Let's face it "Calvinist" is a swear word. Those who consider themselves free-willer's, & know why, have only one point of theology, "God loves everyone": therefore how could a loving God ever condemn anyone to hell or, to put it another way, "Jacob I loved & Esau I hated", or "saved not by the will of man but the will of God", or Eph 1, ..., or "...". They, as I once, make themselves more righteous than God Himself (Job 4:17 KJV) while claiming the theology of Luther, Calvin, ..., Crisp, Owen, Bunyan, ..., Gill, Toplady, Hervey, ..., Spurgeon, ..., Pink,..., makes God a "monster",...,"capricious": the latter characteristic stated by a preacher of the church I left but my wife still attends. And us (swear word) Calvinists “unloving” and rejoicing as we express “O goody!! they are being thrown into ...”. Free-willism is simply the result of a universal application of their premise “God loves everyone”, to literally everyone, to get “God of the hook” for some unpleasant Biblical doctrine – they simply will not believe the truth unless God Himself causes them, me once, to believe; until such a time they make God in their own image. The real swear word is “free-will”; well OK IMHO. Post Script: I have been a NC since the very early '70's when I first read Bondage of the Will. Let’s face it “Calvinist” is a swear word.

Those who consider themselves free-willer’s, & know why, have only one point of theology, “God loves everyone”: therefore how could a loving God ever condemn anyone to hell or, to put it another way, “Jacob I loved & Esau I hated”, or “saved not by the will of man but the will of God”, or Eph 1, …, or “…”. They, as I once, make themselves more righteous than God Himself (Job 4:17 KJV) while claiming the theology of Luther, Calvin, …, Crisp, Owen, Bunyan, …, Gill, Toplady, Hervey, …, Spurgeon, …, Pink,…, makes God a “monster”,…,”capricious”: the latter characteristic stated by a preacher of the church I left but my wife still attends. And us (swear word) Calvinists “unloving” and rejoicing as we express “O goody!! they are being thrown into …”.

Free-willism is simply the result of a universal application of their premise “God loves everyone”, to literally everyone, to get “God of the hook” for some unpleasant Biblical doctrine – they simply will not believe the truth unless God Himself causes them, me once, to believe; until such a time they make God in their own image. The real swear word is “free-will”; well OK IMHO.

Post Script: I have been a NC since the very early ’70’s when I first read Bondage of the Will.

]]> By: The Thin Edge - Why I no longer celebrate Christmas :: Part 1 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-5545 The Thin Edge - Why I no longer celebrate Christmas :: Part 1 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:09:49 +0000 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/#comment-5545 [...] ago I began the nightmarish transition through the dreaded cage stage, moving from a dispassionate, atheological, Southern Baptist inerrantist to a tulip-loving, [...] [...] ago I began the nightmarish transition through the dreaded cage stage, moving from a dispassionate, atheological, Southern Baptist inerrantist to a tulip-loving, [...]

]]> By: Bill Lollar http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-5456 Bill Lollar Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:31:06 +0000 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/#comment-5456 Sorry, Greg, but you're one of the more serious cases I wrote about in my post. You must be nice for much longer than 24 hours to get out for the Christ-mass celebration. Just thinkin' of things like national security, since you do live quite close to a large military installation. ;) Sorry, Greg, but you’re one of the more serious cases I wrote about in my post. You must be nice for much longer than 24 hours to get out for the Christ-mass celebration. Just thinkin’ of things like national security, since you do live quite close to a large military installation. ;)

]]> By: Greg Alford http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/comment-page-1/#comment-5396 Greg Alford Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:35:58 +0000 http://thin-edge.org/2007/12/09/defining-the-cage-stage-of-calvinism/#comment-5396 Pete, “Assume everyone is chosen. If you happen to minister to someone who isn’t, I’m sure God will forgive you.” That is the best quote I have heard in a long time! Thanks.... Bill, See I have been a nice Calvinist for 24 hours... can I please have the keys to my cage so I can get out for Christmass? :-) Pete,

“Assume everyone is chosen. If you happen to minister to someone who isn’t, I’m sure God will forgive you.” That is the best quote I have heard in a long time! Thanks….

Bill,

See I have been a nice Calvinist for 24 hours… can I please have the keys to my cage so I can get out for Christmass? :-)

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