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	<title>Comments on: Short-Term Mission Teams :: Think Outside the Box!</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Lollar</title>
		<link>http://thin-edge.org/2008/04/10/short-term-mission-teams-think-outside-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-17589</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lollar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Bryan:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks for joining in. Sometimes I wonder if anyone really reads this blog at all, due to the lack of feedback, so I&#039;m always encouraged when people leave their remarks.

My experience within the SBC has been quite different from yours, I&#039;m happy to report. I always felt like we could have done a better job of bringing missionaries and churches together, but I never remember feeling that they were a special category. One of your observations, though, I would wholeheartedly concur: that a missionary candidate would need to go through four years of college and at least 3 years of seminary. That&#039;s ridiculous and probably puts a lot of people off. Other than that, I felt that anyone, even I, could go for it if we really wanted to.

I would be so happy to see churches rethink the &quot;summer missions team&quot; concept: to get away from the &quot;vacation with a twist&quot; or the &quot;let&#039;s go impress another culture with our talents&quot; approach. A more humble approach that says, &quot;I&#039;m here to learn a new culture and see what God has to say to me&quot; would be quite refreshing indeed!!

Blessings on your venture of faith, brother! Perhaps we could meet up sometime and share our stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Bryan:</b> Thanks for joining in. Sometimes I wonder if anyone really reads this blog at all, due to the lack of feedback, so I&#8217;m always encouraged when people leave their remarks.</p>
<p>My experience within the SBC has been quite different from yours, I&#8217;m happy to report. I always felt like we could have done a better job of bringing missionaries and churches together, but I never remember feeling that they were a special category. One of your observations, though, I would wholeheartedly concur: that a missionary candidate would need to go through four years of college and at least 3 years of seminary. That&#8217;s ridiculous and probably puts a lot of people off. Other than that, I felt that anyone, even I, could go for it if we really wanted to.</p>
<p>I would be so happy to see churches rethink the &#8220;summer missions team&#8221; concept: to get away from the &#8220;vacation with a twist&#8221; or the &#8220;let&#8217;s go impress another culture with our talents&#8221; approach. A more humble approach that says, &#8220;I&#8217;m here to learn a new culture and see what God has to say to me&#8221; would be quite refreshing indeed!!</p>
<p>Blessings on your venture of faith, brother! Perhaps we could meet up sometime and share our stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Riley</title>
		<link>http://thin-edge.org/2008/04/10/short-term-mission-teams-think-outside-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-17587</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, this is a great post.  I have a few responses to various things you say, so I apologize in advance for a bit of a ramble.

1.  You mention that the SBC has historically been good at educating about missions.  I grew up in the SBC.  Part of the reason I failed to follow my call to missions was because the &quot;education&quot; I received about missions portrayed quite a small box of what a missionary was.  A missionary was someone who didn&#039;t really fit in America and who went to seminary for years prior to going and being a preacher in another culture, often the hardest, darkest place on earth.  There seemed to be little use for &quot;regular&quot; people in missions.  I&#039;ve since learned that God can use all His children (and in fact has plans for all His children) for His mission.  And, after years of pulling a Jonah stunt have finally landed in missions with my wife and 3 children.  It took an SBC IMB Trustee telling me about YWAM, however, to help lead the way, not the SBC&#039;s missions education.  

2.  It appears to be an uphill battle to help people realize that they can take more time, but it is definitely something to pray for the Body of Christ about.  I have so many friends who think only in terms of a vacation - when they don&#039;t realize that leaving their &quot;lives&quot; for 6 months or longer really wouldn&#039;t wreck them.  

3.  I&#039;m grateful that Guy Muse pointed out your blog.  I&#039;m in Nuneaton, Warks., England as a YWAMer at The King&#039;s Lodge, and would love to know more about your ministry and needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, this is a great post.  I have a few responses to various things you say, so I apologize in advance for a bit of a ramble.</p>
<p>1.  You mention that the SBC has historically been good at educating about missions.  I grew up in the SBC.  Part of the reason I failed to follow my call to missions was because the &#8220;education&#8221; I received about missions portrayed quite a small box of what a missionary was.  A missionary was someone who didn&#8217;t really fit in America and who went to seminary for years prior to going and being a preacher in another culture, often the hardest, darkest place on earth.  There seemed to be little use for &#8220;regular&#8221; people in missions.  I&#8217;ve since learned that God can use all His children (and in fact has plans for all His children) for His mission.  And, after years of pulling a Jonah stunt have finally landed in missions with my wife and 3 children.  It took an SBC IMB Trustee telling me about YWAM, however, to help lead the way, not the SBC&#8217;s missions education.  </p>
<p>2.  It appears to be an uphill battle to help people realize that they can take more time, but it is definitely something to pray for the Body of Christ about.  I have so many friends who think only in terms of a vacation &#8211; when they don&#8217;t realize that leaving their &#8220;lives&#8221; for 6 months or longer really wouldn&#8217;t wreck them.  </p>
<p>3.  I&#8217;m grateful that Guy Muse pointed out your blog.  I&#8217;m in Nuneaton, Warks., England as a YWAMer at The King&#8217;s Lodge, and would love to know more about your ministry and needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lollar</title>
		<link>http://thin-edge.org/2008/04/10/short-term-mission-teams-think-outside-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-17323</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lollar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Tom &amp; Chris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tom &#038; Chris!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Roberts</title>
		<link>http://thin-edge.org/2008/04/10/short-term-mission-teams-think-outside-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-17310</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Bill. From my own Pentecostal background, when you read the history of the Elim movement, the founding father was an Evangelist called George Jeffries. The missions that he held which bore the longest-lasting fruit were those where they laid down roots for 2-3 months and became more of a part of the local community rather than a &quot;blitz them and go&quot; type of thing. Whilst I do not doubt the impact on the individual that short term mission can have, I believe that for there to be long-term impact there must generally be long term commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Bill. From my own Pentecostal background, when you read the history of the Elim movement, the founding father was an Evangelist called George Jeffries. The missions that he held which bore the longest-lasting fruit were those where they laid down roots for 2-3 months and became more of a part of the local community rather than a &#8220;blitz them and go&#8221; type of thing. Whilst I do not doubt the impact on the individual that short term mission can have, I believe that for there to be long-term impact there must generally be long term commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom M.</title>
		<link>http://thin-edge.org/2008/04/10/short-term-mission-teams-think-outside-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-17307</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: The Thin Edge - Short-term missions in a postmodern culture</title>
		<link>http://thin-edge.org/2008/04/10/short-term-mission-teams-think-outside-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-17294</link>
		<dc:creator>The Thin Edge - Short-term missions in a postmodern culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While appearances can be misleading for a variety of reasons, this transplanted Mississippian believes that Christians in America could make an important contribution to the overall spiritual climate in Wales and the other three principalities of the UK—England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland—but in ways that might surprise them. More about that in the next post. [...]</description>
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